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the house republicans. so whether people intend it or not, we have got divided government. >> the american people have also made clear that there is no mandate for raising tax rates. >> keeping them honest, president obama campaigned and won on letting taxes go up for the top earners. so his victory throws a little cold water on that claim. democrats gained seats in the senate and the house, and recent cnn polling shows that more than two in three people support tax hikes for the wealthy. it is a reality that republicans will be dealing with from now until new year's day. joining us now, congressman tom cole from oklahoma. he is a republican, thank you for joining us. >> well, thank you. >> you're proposal that republicans should agree with democrats in extending the tax breaks for those making 250,000 there's a year or less, deal with that later, that is the proposal a lot of republicans are resisting, what is the reaction you get? >> oh, i think the reaction is mixed. some support it, some don't. i think have have more questions about it. look it is simple. i don't believe in raising tax
makes clear what the american people expect of our government. that we want a government that is going to have everybody pay their fair share get us back to work and grow the economy from the middle out. >> eliot: what does the seiu plan og done going forward to frame the debate public communication, organizing, what is your agenda. >> we kept our ground game active. we have 44 congressional offices along with partners and community partners, together with 150 offices on november 8th. we have 100 leaders here at capitol hill doing visits with teachers and public service workers from all across the country. next we continue to do more action in the home district. we just followed the president's lead today to push out the hash tag "my 2 k" idea on twitter and e-mail. we're doing lots of education of our members and trying to calm everybody down about--that the cliff is really a slope, and we need to call on congress to pass the tax cuts now. >> eliot: there is one other issue hanging out there the debt ceiling. when the president said to john boehner, look, you got to deal with this now
. the government didn't think it could distinguish between mortgage interest and other kinds of interest. less interest is deductible now. some of the things are left over from the early days of the tax code. there is no magic about allowing people to deduct mortgage interest and not the interest they pay on their credit cards. some of these things are hard to explain. host: does it incentivize home buying? guest: it does provide some if incentive for buying a home and is a large tax break and gives them an enormous benefits. it mostly provides an incentive for buying a bigger house. it seems to incentivize mcmansions. there is a fair question of whether that is something we should be spending that much money on. host: let's go to ohio, robert is a democrat. caller: yes, my question is this. a question/comment. i have seen all these outbreaks been giving out. supposedly they were created for an incentive for them to hire more people. they were given as four years and years. a majority of these companies did very little in hiring. they say they still need to do this. why should we continue givi
this to a c.e.o. in the crowd. so maybe david, you could take this. what role should the government play in the future of -- your business is transportation, too -- in the transportation business with this? look, we are mired in conversations about a fiscal cliff on the very right now. we're talking about long-term infrastructure build-out, a long-term energy plan. what role should c.e.o.'s have and the federal government have in making sure this gets done? >> this is the perfect opportunity for the federal government and for state governments to work together to achieve a common goal, right? there's plenty of times where, when we run a business, our interests might not coalesce with the interests of either of the parties. as fred said, this is the opportunity that we have never had in this country before, where you can have consumer, the business and the governments all working together to take advantage of this huge resource, if you want to call it saudi america. from a waste management perspective, for us it makes so much sense, because it makes business sense. we get about $1.65 equi
, a bloomberg government former members of both parties said negotiators should be able to reach an agreement. in an hour, president obama speaks to ceo's at the business roundtable, followed by news conferences with house speaker john boehner and minority leader nancy pelosi. >> the supreme court will look at what was passed in 2008 by a majority of six-three, i believe, and they will say that is precedent. indiana had a voter i.d. -- >> they decided on the indiana case, it was constitutional for them to establish id they did not say all of that was subsequently -- >> they talked about indiana. you misrepresented what i said. the supreme court is the law of the land. >> when i hear these accusations that black people voter i.d. loss disproportionately affect minorities -- implies to me that somehow we have something missing in our brain. as -- if white americans can get id to vote and go through all the processes to follow the laws, what are you telling black people? that somehow they are not good enough? that is what bothers me about a lot of the rhetoric coming from democrats and the left.
or revenue, that is, the amount of money taken in by the federal government has recovered, and it's doing much better. >> right. gerri: turning your tarns to a conversation going on for days lately. the most recent adherent oklahoma congressman tom cole saying, look, republicans need to compromise. they need to keep tax cuts in place forpeople earning $250,000 and less. heays it's time to make a change and now people on the hill saying that the g.o.p. is splintering. what do you say? >> that's not true. actually, what tom was trying to say was it's a tax call thing. tom is against raising taxes on any level. he's against raising taxes on all folks, but have agreement with the president onhis group that's $250,000 and less, clear the table and make the bracket.ions in the upper he's against raising rates on every single one of those. th's been a clarification. gerri: what about corker and grahm and all these people in washington, elected representatives now saying,you know, i'm rethinking whether there should be a no tax pledge. >> true. that's on the senate side. on the house side,evenue
welker, thank you. >> thanks. good to see you, chris. >>> now from the third branch of government. we're covering the entire government today. we'll find out if the supreme court will weigh in on a pair of hi high-profile cases that would help define the rights and benefits of same-sex couples. pete williams is the justice correspondent. he joins me from outside the supreme court. good morning, pete. >> reporter: good morning, chris. we're wait to go hear whether the court will take either of these two cases. the defense of marriage act passed in 1996 by congress, signed into law by president clinton. and what it says is that for federal law purposes, marriage can exist only between a man and a woman. so that means this in the nine states where same sex marriage is legal, if a same sex couple gets married there, they're considered mayrried for state lw but not federal law and the practical consequence is they are denied about 1,000 federal benefits, tax benefits, survivors benefits, to be covered under health insurance. that sort of thing. it will have to decide whether that law is un
. speaker? when is america paying its fair share but the federal government is spending too much anyway. middle class america, 46.3%. that's middle class america. that's $35,000 a year you are earning. and your federal government and state government hit you for a combination of 46% of every dime. what incentive is that to go out and work longer and harder? 46%. 57 over here. 57. we all know small businesses create all the jobs in this country. that's why we are so worried about this tax proposal because while this is already 57% over here, mr. speaker, the president wants to raise it another 3 to almost 60%. 60% of every dime earned by family-owned businesses, the president wants to take back to washington, d.c. i'm in favor of a balanced approach. i'm committed to fairness in american society. but, mr. speaker, i ask you, is the problem that taxes are too low or is the problem that spending is too high? what better than class warfare, mr. speaker. we are better than saying we are going to ask the them to bear the burden while the we been fit. -- ben fifment -- benefit. 320 million of
yesterday on c- span2. if any family brand their house all the way the u.s. government ran there's, if we could not print money, we would be in a very bad way. i just think we need to get this deficit under control. those two wars that we have not paid for need to be paid for. you know, it has to be done. if going off the fiscal cliff means that it will be done, so be it. host: other groups are weighing in on these fiscal cliff talks. here is "the new york times" -- in the "financial times" this morning -- roger altman writing today in "the financial times." president obama will be meeting with several governors today at the white house to talk about the fiscal cliff. they will be meeting this morning around 10:00 a.m. eastern time, and then the governors are slated to hold a news conference at around 11:30 a.m. eastern time. go to our website for more details. washington insiders tackle fiscal cliff policy solutions. the group will hold a roundtable discussion today on the importance of reform to address the nation's debt and deficit spending this event takes place this morning around 8:
not be conceding that the federal government needs more money, negotiating with ourselves, and treating the president's proposal like it's serious. >> very critical of john boehner. and demint's press release aimed squarely at john boehner. $800 billion tax hike will destroy jobs, allow washington to spend more. as you all know, john boehner put an $800 billion tax hike as a center of his proposal. so john boehner got rejected from the white house, which wants another $800 billion on top of that in tax hikes and then rejected by the right wing of his own party which wants absolutely no tax hikes at all. so unlike harry reid, i actually feel genuine sympathy for john boehner. so kudos, speaker, for showing deserters or desenters who is boss. boehner stripped house members who opposed key committee assignments today. and earlier i spoke with one republican leader in the house who himself has been out of step with boehner in recent days. deputy whip congressman tom cole of oklahoma. he said the gop should agree to obama's proposal to extend bush tax rates for households that make less than
are in congress, you will reign in spending and reform government, not raise taxes. >> they are just going right back at one another aren't they, boom, boom. these are republicans, all of the sudden just at each other's throats. republican congressman, peter king, responded. >> the fact he brought my wife into it. i don't think he has ever met me, certainly never met my wife. he better hope he doesn't. she will knock his head off. >> king also explained why norquist is wrong on substance. >> i did sign a pledge back in 1996, during the whole conflict with the clinton administration over the government shutdown. i was totally opposed to any tax increases at that time. but to say that a pledge on an issue like taxes would last for a lifetime is ridiculous. ronald reagan raised taxes a number of times because that's what he had to do to close the deal. >> when norquist started his anti-tax pledge, the deficit was $220 billion. now, it tops $1 trillion. this is a turning point for the gop or at least it could be. the other thing you need to know about is the money trail. in 2010, 66% of funding for
of fema testifies on capitol hill about the government's response to hurricane sandy. and later, senate debate on the u.n. treaty for the disabled. ♪ ♪ >> this weekend on c-span3's american history tv, follow harry truman easeleddest grandson to hiroshima as the city prepared to mark the bombing of the city in 1945. >> you know, everybody has their own view what happened, and i, i don't, i don't want to argue survival with anyone in japan about the history. i think we're past that. my whole purpose for being here is to listen, to honor the dead, to listen to the living and to see -- to do what i can to see this doesn't happen again. >> clifton truman daniel will join us sunday at 9 p.m. eastern on c-span3. >> now, a discussion of how the military and national security might be affected by spending cuts scheduled to take effect the first of the year. part of the so-called fiscal cliff. former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, admiral mike mullen, was joined by the chairmen of the senate house armed services committee. this is a little less than an hour. >> good afternoon. thank
businesses which provide 67% of the jobs in this country. that may fund the government for a short time. then, what's the plan? stimulus 2.0. because the first stimulus worked so well? that was a disaster as well. we have a $16 trillion deficit, and the president wants to spend more money. are you kidding me? spending is the problem. we don't need more of it. lastly, he wants the power to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval. the administration cannot issue an edict like a money monarchy. congress, congress, congress is in control of the purse. we have gone wild and that's just the way it is. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from illinois seek recognition? mr. quigley: i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. quigley: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, the impact that independent locally owned businesses have in our communities comes as no surprise. the social and environmental outcomes are essentia
when they were threatening the government shutdown. i mean, where do you even start? >> it's an oklahoma republican, a straight party guide. this is not one of these new england republicans, you know, who's defecting and when he echoes a democratic talking point word for word like that, crystal, it seems to me that he watched this campaign. he believes that this presidential campaign and congressional campaign has taught some lessons that the republicans must now observe. >> i think that's right. i mean, the playing field is fundamentally altered. they went to every length they possibly could to keep the president from succeeding in the first term with the hope of keeping him a one-term president and that strategy failed and failed miserable bly across the board. so, he is realizes they have to reassess that strategy. they can't just be the party of no. look at chris christie, also being a champion in the wake of hurricane sandy. people don't want just knee jerk no government. they want a government that really does work. >> and a "washington post" poll showing 60% of ameri
. but sounding off, chanting anti-government and anti-president slogans. they've left that area, but the opposition still out here protesting against the president in tahrir square. >> we'll keep a close eye on that situation. i'm brooke baldwin in atlanta. thanks for being with me. let's go to wolf blitzer. "the situation room" begins right now. >>> happening now, president obama says we're out of time for anything but a down payment for solving the nation's spending crisis. >>> amid fears, the government may resort to chemical weapons, nato says yes to turkey to giving them patriot missiles. we'll talk to the former british prime minister, tony blair. >>> as they await a new heir to the throne, the british consider changing the rules about who can become king or queen. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin with president obama's latest ideas for getting past the standoff with house republicans. he now says there isn't enough time left to do a comprehensive deal, including tax reform, fixing medicare. so he wants congress to raise tax rates for the weal
down the government in april of 2011 cutting discretionary spending by billions of dollars and they came to another one on the debt ceiling as well which was a 2.2 trillion dollar long-term reduction in exchange for an increase in the debt ceiling. so, you know, the need to take it to another level. this is a more complex problem, and it's the beginning of a series of negotiations between the two. they are going to be together for the next four years. the president won the election, the republicans won the house and frankly are not likely to lose the election in the second term presidency. so john boehner is active to be speaker the next four years hopefully this is the beginning of a productive relationship. >> host: you made some news last week -- >> guest: not intentionally. [laughter] >> host: when you said republicans should agree with the president, go ahead and extend the tax cuts for 98% of americans and fight leader on for extending those tax cuts for wealthier americans. given what was put out by speaker boehner yesterday, did that change your position? >> guest:
the tax code, not increasing tax rates. we can address wasteful government spending that jeopardize an hour commitments in the national defense and protecting our most honorable. we can jump-start our economy by assuring americans that congress and the president can work together to get the job done and deal courageously with the pressing problems of today. when it comes to the fiscal cliff, the president and congress will either fail together or we will succeed together. there is nothing in between. i am confident that we can pass the test and do what is good and right for the american people. >> the president has been talking a lot about taxes lately, and as acpa who practiced for years and a member of ways and means committee, there is no one who likes to talk about tax more than i do. but let's be honest -- talking about taxes is not going to solve the problem that america faces. we have to turn to the spending side of the ledger. furthermore, his tax proposal will kill about 700,000 jobs and do harm to the economy, again, the wrong direction. i think house republicans have set
for us to take what is the very best of government programs, what is the very best in private sector, and what is the very best from entrepreneurialism and innovation in our academic sector to drive down the cost, provide greater access, focus on wellness and individual responsibility and, we have got something that if we were together, becomes the greatest system in the world. in our reach. it is all right before us. it takes a collection of the best thinking and the best ideas from not only both parties, but from all sectors of our economy and our country. that is where we need to focus on. but when you are staring at $750 billion annually, that clearly is the place where you are going to look to cut instead of on the backs of beneficiaries who have paid into an insurance program. >> you talked about how optimistic you are heading out of the meeting, but i have not personally heard any new information that may be optimistic about the chances of a deal. did gene sperling convey to you any particular piece of intimation that was the cause for that optimism? >> yes. if you go back, an
to something for a month or two and have them come back and try to shut down the government like they have in the past. so that's part of the program. >> your position right now if i have it right is that you senate democrats would prefer a stand alone bill raising the top rate dorks i have that right? >> no, there is no stand alone bill. if we do nothing, the rates go up. >> as a matter of settling the fiscal cliff are you saying you do just a rise on the top rates now? >> we are saying extend the tax cuts for middle class. as part of that, of course, we know if we do nothing top rates go up. and we are waiting for the republicans to come forward with something because that's our proposal period. >> at the negotiations it was each side come down with your down payment. we've come down with ours. we're waiting for theirs. >> it's about three weeks we've been waiting. >> sbhite what you have all said today, speaker boehner made clear he thinks the ball is in your court and the president's court. he says democrats haven't depoten serious about spending cuts. where is the disconnect? >> i don
the commitment of university. is our hope is strong consideration is made for allocations of government resources to fund programs like the initiative at mercyhurst which assist students not only in achieving a college education, but help them to become productive citizens in our society. as a provider and a father, i strongly feel the need to act now before the task before us becomes insurmountable. thank you again for your time and this opportunity. >> thank you for your testimony. mr. carley i now recognized. >> i would ask for just a little bit of leeway. having only been asked to speak monday morning, i have not had the same ad in time. just a minute or two would be most gracious . boards, i of both my would like to thank all the members of the committee. i bring two concerns, both of which shed light on a population of people on all sides of the spectrum, and on all sides of the many controversies that exist in the autism-world. i hope to be able to stress the negative consequences on us all when so many are in during financial, logistical, and emotional stresses of a magnitude that might s
-- more of their money to the federal government without raising the tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. \[inaudible question] >> i think our members understand the seriousness of the situation that our country faces. trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. $16 trillion of debt on the books. every man, woman and child owing the american government $50,000 and that number is increasing every single year. as a result, our members understand that we've got to solve the problem, and we will. >> the house is going to leave today with two days left in the week -- \[inaudible] >> the house leaving with the fiscal cliff -- >> i will be here and will be available any moment to sit down with the president p to get serious about solving this problem. >> does the conference realize that you don't seem to be negotiating? >> our members believe strongly that raising tax rates will hurt the economy. closing loopholes, especially on those who are wealthy is a better way to raise this revenue than raising rates because raising rates will hurt the very people we are expectin
are a year later after we've been through this fiasco already. we've been through the threat of a government shutdown. everybody's known this time was coming. i understand negotiating. i understand taking a hard line. i just wonder, with america and the world, business leaders here, business leaders around the world, the markets, everybody else looking so closely at this, was it necessary for the president to be so provocative with something that, you know, even "the new york times" said was, quote, loaded with democratic priorities, and really gave republicans nothing. >> again, it's a curious offer. i would imagine there has -- tim geithner's too smart of a guy, and this administration is filled with smart people. they must have a serious strategic plan. but if you were a pedestrian watching this, if the ceo of a company that's not been into the white house, a medium-size to small company, it has to be a source for alarm this morning that maybe they're not nearly as close to a deal as we thought. let alone if you're a ceo if you've been in the office with the president and you've laid out
of our investigation which is what did our government know and what could it have done before the terrorist attack to protect the lives of the americans who were there. >> don't forget something here. this is not susan rice's first political rodeo. he didn't suddenly appear from team obama land in 2008. she has a lot of friends in this town, very experienced in washington. while this hasn't been the best week for her, it appears she can survive the confirmation process. the person who may have had a worst week than her is cia acting director mike morrell. he could end up the real political loser in all this. his confirmation hearing could be the one that is the true proxy fight on all this if he ends up the president's choice to head up the cia which a lot of people say, frankly, he may be. >>> there's another big story out there around the world that will have some political and other ramifications. palestinians go to the united nations today in an attempt to upgrade their status in the eyes of the global community. the u.s. says it won't help its bid to establish a palestini
sector, the government has an important role to play in creating a massive jobs program that will generate the kind of consumer demand that will then cause the private sector to really start staffing up in a way that we need them to staff up to have full employment. but that should be the goal. full employment. >> terry, going back to the fiscal slope negotiations, there's basically no women really involved in the high level negotiations. nancy pelosi is sort of a side player as she was in the debt ceiling negotiations. research has shown that female legislators attract more co-sponsors for their bills, indicating they're better at consensus building. other research also shows in business and in the world women are -- tend to be better consensus builders. would we be better served to have a few women at the table there? >> oh, absolutely. you know, we are still well under 20% of the united states congress. and that shows in the kind of fiscal debate that we're having right now. if you had 50% of the congress were women, i think you'd have a lot more talk about the need f
. they had been working with the government there to do security. it wasn't an al qaeda -- >> they were armed with rpgs and attacked our facility. they were terrorists -- >> i think -- >> they were terrorists that day. >> a lot of terrorists aren't al qaeda. when she said at the beginning that the key thing here is to the security failure in benghazi, she's correct. that's not susan rice's responsibility. that's the state department -- >> i know. >> susan rice is being asked to defend all kinds of stuff that's really the responsibility of the state department and the cia to explain right now. it was mainly a cia operation. >>> this afternoon in a cabinet meeting president obama answered a question from a reporter the heat, i was calling it the fried rice, the headline in the new york post, the fried rice from republicans on the hill. take a look at the president's way of handling this today. >> mr. president, do you think it's being fair to susan rice. >> thanks, guys. susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job she's done at u.s. u.n. >> you saw hillary clinton leading the ap
over the role of government. is government an enabler in which case you feel that there should be higher revenue in order to carry on providing some kind of social safety net, or do you feel as republicans do that that just gets in the way of growth? the moment you raise taxes of any form, that's what is a growth inhibitor which is what republicans are saying. >> republicans have accepted the idea that there's going to be revenue. they're over that. the issue now is where does the revenue come from? quite frankly, if the five of us sat around this table, we could get this deal done pretty quickly. it's not hard to compromise it out. you don't increase the rates as much as obama wants. you do some stuff on deductions and so-called loopholes that the republicans want. you create $1.2 trillion of revenue. you have a trillion dollars of savings from some stuff that happened already last year, do some stuff on defense, you could get the $4 trillion package that we need. it's not hard. you just have two sides that are so polarized, have dug themselves into such deep corners, and just
that licenses the people to be able to drive on the streets. it's not the federal government. i'm not surprised i'm being sued, but that's the law and i'm going to obey my oath of office. >> it is worth noting that according to the arizona republic, the state already grants licenses to noncitizens with work permits. brewer seems to be singling out those who have received their permits through the department of homeland security's executive action. translation, jan brewer is picking a fight with president obama. michael steele, i have to go to you first on this. >> okay. sure, why not. >> i'm sorry, my friend. you have spoken at length and substantively about the problem that the gop has, not only with minorities but specifically with latinos. here we have a governor, we know the gop has been tripped up by actions at the state level, seems to be happening again with brewer. why is she pursuing this now. >> i don't know. it's clearly something within the water of her state. >> the water supply of arizona. >> which is dwindling. >> i think governors look at things like this through a different pri
the olympics around and pointed out perhaps this could help in the government to streamline agencies, make it more user friendly. it will be a different tone from the campaign trail, talking about moving the country forward. at this point, no suggestion that the president plans to hand him any kind of job offer. >> it is a private lunch. no cameras inside. we'll never know what goes on in there. dan, thank you so much. >> we are all here today. we didn't win. but two ticket holders defied the ridiculous odds. they will split the $588 million powerball. >> the numbers are 5, 16, 22, 23, 29 and the powerball of 6. >> you sound like you have done it before. >> i have done it way too much. losing every time. another loser. victor blackwell outside of atlanta. the caviar dreams are over fors all of us. >> dashed. >> reporter: yeah. back to hot dogs and canned tuna for us. those two people in arizona and missouri split the $588 million. the cash payout, $385 million. i neem mapleton, georgia. they are in arizona and missouri. i'm here because this gas station was one of the busiest places to buy
under state law, but the federal government doesn't recognize their marriage, which means that they can't get survivors' benefits, they don't get tax benefits, they don't get social security benefits. about 1,000 benefits in all that are the result of this federal law that's being challenged by several cases. and that's why you say there are at least eight of them, all of which say that the federal law is unconstitutional discrimination. and the challengers also say there's never been another case where congress says, well, we're not going to recognize a marriage that the state defines as legal. so i think that's the most likely thing that will happen today. but one of the cases that the justices will be talking about is the challenge to california's proposition 8. that's the voter-approved measure four years ago that stopped gay marriage in california. now, a federal appeals court overturned the ban and did so on a basis that was rather narrow and applied only to california. if the supreme court takes that case, then at the very least, it will decide what's going to become of gay marri
would have to pay more taxes to the federal government. >> yeah. and remember, too, these negotiations last summer were in private. this wasn't something that filtered out. there wasn't really a focus on what would that $800 billion in refb new be composed of? would it hurt the charitable interest deduction, the mortgage interest deduction. back then it was big round numbers. the other thing, during those negotiations as the congressman said, obama sort of came back to the table and if you talk to republicans, one thing that blew up those negotiations obama said he needed more revenue, needed $1.2 trillion and that fell apart. but the other thing that's changeds is simply that the american people have weighed in an election and re-elected the president and tilts the see-saw in what democrats would like in a larger revenue. >> the economy is in a different position, the president actually did sign into law a series of cuts, he's proposed a lot in his 2013 budget. it's not like he's been stagnant. we've been having this argument throughout the presidential campaign and guess what? as we
, and he thought in turning around the olympics, some of that could be used to streamline government and make it more user friendly. that's what we expect for the president to be discussing with mitt romney when they sit down today for lunch at the white house. of course everyone is speculating about some possible role he could play in this white house. it's interesting because it's a very high-profile bipartisan showing from the president today at a time -- >> the timing. >> yes. when he's trying to work with republicans to get something done on the fiscal cliff. >> dan lothian, thank you. >>> two lucky ticket holders beat the odds and they will split the record $588 million powerball jackpot. one ticket was sold in arizona. the other many missouri. the winning numbers are 5, 16, 22, 23, 29, and the powerball is 6. victor blackwell is in atlanta. one person on facebook yesterday said to me it's better to burn the ticket, at least you get heat from it. for two people at least it's good they didn't burn it. >> it's 29 degrees out here, i wish i had the ticket i bought so i could get s
government and $3.5 trillion that we're spending. so, we're going to need a balanced approach of both revenue and spending cuts to teat there. so, that's what the president has been talking about and certainly something i can support. >> "the wall street journal" today senior administration officials say the white house not making any new offers until republicans change their opposition to raising top tax rates in this country. as a businessman, that would be directly affected by an impasse like that, as would millions of americans. how do you feel about that? >> how i feel, i'm 100% confident we'll resolve the fiscal cliff pretty much a day or two before christmas. what is happening now the public posturing that has to happen in a negotiation so that each side can make their base happy as people move to the middle. once they get behind closed doors and recognize that they have enough good ideas on the table, they'll pick the best ones of those and meet somewhere in the middle to get us somewhere between where the president started and where the republicans would like to end up. i think that'
the connection between this situation and the situation we were in around 1995 when there was a government shutdown. republicans thought they could drive this to the bitter end, and what happened? the american voters actually blamed them, the republicans, for what happened. i think it's a pattern in american politics when things happen that are, in effect, harmful government shutdowns, if you will, or breakdowns of process, the blame usually ends up on the side of the obstructionists in the republican party. i think there are enough republicans who want to win re-election who see that the strategy of obstruction failed them in this last election. they want to pivot and make a rebrand of the republican party. those are the folks that are the deciding votes in the republican caucus, enough to combine with democrats who shorten that margin in the house to get something passed. >> an interesting note, erin. congresswoman bass mentioned another possible strategy from democra democrats. earlier told nancy pelosi tsd if speaker boehner refuses to schedule this for a vote, democrats will introduce
eight days of running the federal government. so i think what we need to do 0 is keep the american people engaged. keep them focused on the issue and look at the spending, look at the reforms. >> i understand, but is it worth going over this fiscal cliff to do that or at this point let's just pure politics here, take away the president's best leverage. >> well, there again, you can't get to a workable long-term solution until you agree to address spending in the near term and the long term and until you address the two trust funds which are medicare and entitlements. the largest of which is medicaid. there are lots of bills and plans and approaches that have been presented over the last several years. >> i understand that. i want to read a quote from somebody you are familiar with. the ceo of fedex. this is what he said about tax rates. a lot of mythology in washington that it's small business that creates all the jobs in the united states and if you raise the rates on the top 2%, you'll kill jobs. the vast majority are produced by capital investment in equipment and software. that
in to extortion, kidnapping, sort of assuming the role of the government in places where the government's ability to secure the territory is not so strong. so for me the long run picture north of the border in the united states is pretty positive. the long run picture south of the border is more complicated. and i think a lot of what the president elect in mexico has been talking about has been that imbalance. >> let me respond. >> go ahead, general. >> let me put a counter point on the table. the mexican mafia, the cartels are now the dominant organized crime in 230 u.s. cities. they probably are the dominant controlling authority in over 1,000 mexican municipalities. it's not whether they will come. they are here. so if you're in sacramento or washington or a lot of these places, that's who their wholesale distribution are. they won't get out of the distribution of marijuana in the state of washington, i can assure you. so we have to remember that. now, the local distribution of grug, i think benjamin is correct, the foot soldiers are gangs. they're recruited in american prisons. they're involv
. government's twice the size it was 11 years ago. and a good portion of that's discretionary. military, my colleagues have kind of a blind eye when it comes to the defense department. there's so much waste in the defense department, it's unbelievable. we could take another $50 billion, in my estimation, or $40 billion a year out of the defense department if we ran it right. you know, we have 1200 generals and flag officers now. at the end of world war ii, we had 2,000. we had 12.5 million people under arms, we've got 1.5 million. we've good an admiral for almost every ship in the navy right now. we've had this crete in terms of rank. there's all sorts of money to be saved in the pentagon that will have no effect whatsoever on our defensive posture or our capability. >> but steve, i'm curious, though. what is the difference, in your opinion, between raising the top marginal rate and closing some loopholes? if you get $1.2 trillion in revenue, why does it matter so much more to the president that you do it by raising the top rate when the super wealthy, as we've described on the show, aren't
with revenue. >> can i ask you, is the government capable of spending less money than it takes in? can they generate a surplus in these times. >> they did it during bill clinton. >> that was a couple decades ago. >> lyndon johnson was president. it can be done. both parties are guilty. the democrats spend more money without raising taxes. you can't do those things. this is a balance sheet deal. this is not a democratic versus republican issue. the difference between the parties is how much taxes and how many cuts. you need both. we are going to be in for some rough economic times, but it's going to be two quarters. that's what's going to have to happen. i don't think the compromises will be made that need to be made. let me say something about sbiesbie entitlements. we can get $400 billion out of medicare by doing one thing. and that's simply pay doctors and hospitals by the number of patients, not by the number of procedures they do. that's a simple thing to do. we need to pay by the patient, not by the procedure. you're going to have control over cost. >> gentlemen, thank you so much
coming up. >> it will come up. >> great to see you. thank you. >>> coming up next, what a new government report is finding about closing gitmo and what would happen to the 166 detainees that are currently being held there. where would they go? >>> plus, the election may be over, but president obama's lead over mitt romney keeps growing as the final numbers continue to come in. it's just one of the things we thought you should know. ♪ if it wasn't for you ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove [ male announcer ] introducing the celebration diamond collection. zales is the diamond store. let love shine. now's a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a plan that really meets your needs? and your budget? as you probably know, medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you in out-of-pocket medical c
the federal government more money so in the end, that's not the answer either. the answer is to give the middle class the tax cut that they deserve. and i think if enough people use the hash tag, we should get it done. hash tag my2k. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] on your radio and on current tv, this is the bill press show. >> welcome. >> this is june 11th, the full court press coming to you live from our nation's capitol all the way across this great land of ours and brought to you by bhil we're talking about president obama launching a nationwide public campaign, a spirited campaign to get those middle class tax cuts, giving hash tag my2k to tell members of congress what that $2,000, getting rid of the tax cuts, if the republicans let themmics pire -- if -- to let them expire, what it would mean to you to have that extra $2,000 in your pocket. first, we're getting here to the end of november where we marked veterans day. toward the beginning of the month. we heard so many great stories
significant. because no government of israel has previously announced major construction in that area. it's pretty much open land. and it represents the possible last link in blocking a geographically contiguous palestinian state. so it's highly significant and will be seen that way in the region. >> are the settlements, are they the biggest impediment to a long-term solution? >> no i don't think they are the single-biggest impediment, i think they are one of the impediments, i think it's a mistake to assign rankings to the problems in the middle east. jerusalem is highly important, very emotional on both sides. i should emphasize that while i believe that the announcement of the settlement construction on e-1 is counterproductive and moves away from a resolution, so is the palestinian action going to the you united nations. what you have here are a series of actions and reactions, going back a long time. that move the parties further away from the negotiation that both sides agree is necessary if there is to be a palestinian state in practical effect on the ground. >> is this country's c
there will be hell to pay for all of us, including them. the people running the government. the politicians. good politicians don't take their countries off of cliffs. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. >>> thanks, chris. and thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live from washington, d.c. tonight's lead, the end of an era. for more than 20 years republicans have calmed to the one policy that's crippled our ability to get things done in washington. do you remember this? >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> read my lips, no new taxes. george h.w. bush hammered that mantra to win the white house in 1988. but just two years later, the reagan deficits were skyrocketing and president bush was forced to change his most famous line. >> long and bitter battle over the budget officially ended last night. president bush put his signature on the deficit reduction package, including $140 billion in tax increases. >> tax increases. that was a turning point for the modern republican party. the right wing went crazy. and george bush lost re-election.
, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%, that includes all of you, yes, but not in any way that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles, or the economy in any significant way. let's make sure that 9 % of americans -- 98% of americans don't see a single dime in tax increases next year. >> house speaker john boehner is not ready to make a deal, but some members of his caucus think it's time to start talking about getting past the tax debate. oklahoma republican tom coles is one and joins me now. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> is there a way to move the tax debate forward to start talking about the spending cuts you want to see locked in? isn't the tax debate now blocking progress towards the larger issue which is getting -- attacking the deficit with real spending cuts? >> i think there is, but let me make very apparent i think the speaker is right. i think the proposal he's put on the table is a great
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